Eric Stashin the Rotoprofessor and I have decided to team up and debate Mark McGwire’s Hall of Fame worthiness.

Numbers
Played 1986-2001 (16 Seasons)
1874 Games
6187 At Bats
.263 Batting Average
.394 On-base % (77th All-time)
.588 Slugging % (9th All-time)
1167 Runs
1626 Hits
252 Doubles
6 Triples
583 Home Runs – (8th All-time)
1414 RBI – (65th All-time)
1317 Walks – (35th All-time)
12 Stolen Bases
3639 Total Bases

One .300+ Season
Three 100+ Run Seasons
Eleven 30+ HR Seasons
 Six 40+ HR Seasons
  Four 50+ HR Seasons
   Two 60+ HR Seasons
    One 70 HR Season
Seven 100+ RBI Seasons (Two with 147)

Playoffs:  1 Ring, 28 of 129 (.217), 13 Runs, 2 Double, 5 HRs, 14 RBI, 18 Walks

Awards
1997 Rookie of the Year
12 All-Star Games
1990 Gold Glove
3 Silver Sluggers (1992, 1996, 1998)
10 Seasons with MVP Votes (3 Top 5 MVP finishes)

Top Ten Finishes
On-Base % – 4 Times (Led league in 1996 & 1998)
Slugging % – 8 Times (Led league in 1987, 1992, 1996 & 1998)
OPS – 7 Times (Led league in 1996 & 1998)
Runs – Twice
Home Runs – 10 Times (Led league in 1987, 1996, 1998 & 1999)
RBI – 6 Times – (Led league in 1999)
Total Bases – 3 Times
Extra-Base Hits – 6 Times (Led league in 1998)
Walks - 8 Times (Led league in 1990 & 1998)
Intentional Walks – 6 Times (Led league in 1999)
Hit by Pitch – Twice

Hall of Fame Yardsticks
Black Ink: Batting – 36 (41) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting – 110 (190) (Average HOFer ≈ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting – 42.1 (123) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting – 169.5 (62) (Likely HOFer > 100)

Lester’s Take
Mark McGwire hit a ton of Home Runs with a ton of RBI and Walks.  With his HR total, this should be a slam dunk case.  If you look at the Hall of Fame yardsticks, you can easily see it’s not a slam dunk case.  Half of them suggest he belongs.  The other half suggests he doesn’t.  That’s where I am at with Big Mac myself.  You have to appreciate the power numbers he put up.  However, you’d be lying to yourself if you if you think those numbers don’t come with baggage.  For starters, there was the whole Andro thing.  Granted it wasn’t against the rules at the time, but it’s pretty naive to think that Big Mac stopped there.  Surely, his appearance before Congress didn’t help his cause.  I think you have to eventually let the cheaters in otherwise you are condemning a whole era.  I’m certain there will be guys who make the HOF from the era that somehow dodge steroid speculation based on their personality.  Evenutally the steroid guys will be addressed, but I’m just not sure the numbers are there for Mac.  There isn’t a Hall of Famer position player with 6000 At Bats that has fewer than McGwire’s 1626 Hits.  Without the power surge at the end of his career he likely wouldn’t have reach the 500 HR mark.  His first six seasons he averaged 36 HRs per year.  His last six he averaged 51 HRs per year.  Usually you don’t have your best production in the last six years of your career.  Even if he averaged the same production as he did during his first six years, you’d have to shave 90 HRs (six years at 15 HRs per year) off his total.  That would put in him at 493 HRs and on the outside looking in.  McGwire never had 30 Doubles in a year.   He didn’t score 100 Runs in a year until 1996, a decade into his career.  People credit him and Sammy Sosa with saving baseball in 1998, but come on.  It’s baseball.  We would have come back.  All they did was speed up the process.  Sorry, Big Mac.  You’d never get my vote.

Rotoprofessor’s Take
I know the perception around Mark McGwire; a steroid user, a cheater. We all saw his appearance in front of Congress, which left little doubt. The truth of the matter is, however, at that time it was not illegal in baseball to do what he did. If you are going to hold what he did against him, you are going to have to hold it against an entire generation, because no one knows for a fact who was clean and who wasn’t. Steroids were running rampant throughout the sport, and while I’d agree that the standards for being considered a Hall of Fame player have to be adjusted, you can’t disqualify him solely on that reason. Steroids or not, he still had to hit the ball. There are some players who I feel like you have to look beyond the numbers, especially during this era, not only the “Steroids Era”, but the era of the compiler. I know you can look at the number of hits he had or the number of runs he drove in and say that outside of his HR’s he just doesn’t stack up with the other players already enshrined. Maybe that’s true, but McGwire’s presence transcends the numbers. He was the dominant force in the game from 1996-1999, putting together a stretch like no other, hitting 245 HR and driving in 530 RBI. The rest of the league was so scared to face him that he walked 512 times. He completely dominated the game. No matter what the numbers were for his entire career, which were very good anyways, for those four years he was the elite. The one player opposing pitchers feared. Since McGwire, there have been other players who put up over 500 HR, take Jim Thome for instance. As of right now he has 541 career HR, but he was never truly the dominant force at the plate. To me, he’s not a Hall of Famer, but that’s a discussion for another time. Just because you reach 500 HR doesn’t make you a Hall of Fame player anymore. Dominating the game like McGwire did, that earns you my vote. He deserves to be there, along with the other greats, and he’d get my vote every year his name appeared on the ballot.

There you have it folks.  Feel free to weigh in and take a side.


Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI

The Veterans Committee is going to vote on twenty players for induction into the Hall of Fame.  There are ten players pre-1943 and ten post-1943.  Today I profile Bucky Walters from that group.

Numbers
Played 1934-1950 (16 seasons)
428 Games
398 Starts
3104-2/3 Innings
198 Wins – 160 Losses
.553 Winning Percentage
3.30 ERA (3.80 League Average)
1.324 WHIP
1107 Ks
242 Complete Games
42 Shutouts
4 Saves

Three 20+ Win Seasons
Seven sub 3.00 ERA Seasons
Zero 200 K Seasons

Playoffs:  1 Ring, 4 Games, 3 Starts, 2-2, 2.79 ERA, 12 Ks 

Awards
1939 Triple Crown
1939 MVP
6 All-Star Game Appearances
MVP Votes in 5 Seasons

Top Ten Finishes
Wins - 8 Times (Led league in 1939, 1940 & 1944)
Winning % - 4 Times
ERA - 6 Times (Led league in 1939 & 1940)
WHIP - 4 Times (Led league in 1939 & 1940)Games – Twice
Starts - 9 Times (Led league in 1937 & 1939)
Innings - 8 Times (Led league in 1939, 1940 & 1941)
Strikeouts - 4 Times (Led league in 1939)
Complete Games - 8 Times (Led league in 1939, 1940 & 1941)
Shutouts - 9 Times (Led league in 1936)

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:

Black Ink: Pitching – 48 (26) (Average HOFer ≈ 40)
Gray Ink: Pitching – 152 (90) (Average HOFer ≈ 185)
HOF Standards: Pitching – 27.0 (171) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Pitching – 104.5 (87) (Likely HOFer > 100)

Half of the yardsticks say he’s worthy.  The other two say the opposite.  I just don’t think he had enough dominating seasons.  He was lights on from 1939-1942 and again in 1944.  The problem is only three of those years did he have outstanding Win-Loss Percentages.  If you take those three years away he actually has a losing record.  I’m sorry, but that doesn’t sway me to the Hall of Fame side.  He did have a signature year winning the Triple Crown and MVP in 1939, but he didn’t do enough.  Perhaps if he came up as a Pitcher rather than a Third Baseman he would have the numbers he needed.  As it stands, I’ll have to pass on Bucky for Cooperstown.

References
Baseball-reference.com

Past Chronicles
Dick Allen
Roberto Alomar
Richie Ashburn*
Earl Averill*
Harold Baines

Dan Bancroft*
Jake Beckley*

Albert Belle
Jim Bottomley*
Pete Browning

Jim Bunning *
Bert Byleven
Joe Carter
Orlando Cepeda*
Rocky Colavito
Earle Combs*
Dave Concepcion
David Cone
Roger Connor*
Larry Corcoran

Mike Cuellar
Bill Dahlen
George Davis*
Andre Dawson
Larry Doby*
Bobby Doerr*
Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager)
Dwight Evans
Rick Ferrell*
Wes Ferrell
Chuck Finley
Steve Finley
Nellie Fox*
John Franco

Gary Gaetti
Steve Garvey
Lefty Gomez*
Luis Gonzalez
Dwight Gooden
Mark Grace
Bobby Grich
Charlie Grimm (Player/Manager)
Ron Guidry
Chick Hafey*

Billy Herman*
Keith Hernandez
Orel Hershiser
Whitey Herzog (Manager)
Gil Hodges
Ralph Houk (Manager)
Shoeless Joe Jackson
Travis Jackson*
Tommy John
Bob Johnson
Addie Joss*
Jim Kaat
George Kell*
Joe Kelley*
George Kelly*
Tom Kelly (Manager)
Chuck Klein*
Jerry Koosman
Bill James & Pete Palmer
Barry Larkin
Tony Lazzeri*
Freddie Lindstrom*
Mickey Lolich
Ernie Lombardi*
Fred Lynn
Sherry Magee

Roger Maris
Rube Marquard*
Billy Martin (Player/Manager)
Dennis Martinez
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Don Mattingly
Gene Mauch (Manager)
Bill Mazeroski*
Fred McGriff

Mark McGwire
Bid McPhee
Johnny Mize*
Paul Molitor*
Jack Morris
Tony Mullane
Dale Murphy
Graig Nettles
Hal Newhouser*
Lefty O’Doul
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver

Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso
Dave Parker
Wes Parker
Lance Parrish
Vada Pinson
Boog Powell
Tim Raines
Willie Randolph
Pee Wee Reese*
Jim Rice
Phil Rizzuto*
Brooks Robinson*
Pete Ro$e
Amos Rusie*
Jimmy Ryan
Ron Santo
Curt Schilling
Red Schoendienst* (Player/Manager)
Ted Simmons
Enos Slaughter*
Lee Smith
Rusty Staub
Dave Stieb
Mel Stottlemyre
Harry Stovey
Sam Thompson
Luís Tiant
Joe Torre
Alan Trammell

George Van Haltren
Arky Vaughan*
Mo Vaughn
Bobby Veach
Frank Viola
Mickey Welch*
Lou Whitaker
Deacon White
Bernie Williams
Vic Willis*
Maury Wills 
Hack Wilson*
Ross Youngs*
Veterans Committee Ballot
 

* Signifies actual Hall of Famer


Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI

The Veterans Committee is going to vote on twenty players for induction into the Hall of Fame.  There are ten players pre-1943 and ten post-1943.  Today I profile Wes Ferrell from that group.


Wes with Hall of Fame brother Rick

Numbers
Played 1927-1941 (15 seasons)
374 Games
323 Starts
2623 Innings
193 Wins – 128 Losses
.601 Winning Percentage
4.04 ERA (4.70 League Average)
1.481 WHIP
985 Ks
227 Complete Games
17 Shutouts
13 Saves
No-Hitter

Six 20+ Win Seasons
Zero sub 3.00 ERA Seasons
Zero 200 K Seasons

Playoffs: 

Awards
2 All-Star Game Appearances
MVP Votes in 4 Seasons

Top Ten Finishes
Wins – 7 Times (Led league in 1935)
Winning % – 7 Times
ERA – 7 Times
WHIP – Once
Games – Twice
Starts – 6 Times (Led league in 1935 & 1936)
Innings – 6 Times (Led league in 1935, 1936 & 1937)
Strikeouts – 7 Times
Complete Games – 9 Times (Led league in 1931, 1935, 1936 & 1937)
Shutouts – 6 Times
Saves – 3 Times

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:
Black Ink: Pitching – 25 (66) (Average HOFer ≈ 40)
Gray Ink: Pitching – 170 (69) (Average HOFer ≈ 185)
HOF Standards: Batting – 11.0 (1492) Pitching – 22.0 (247) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Pitching – 75.0 (151) (Likely HOFer > 100)

His yardsticks fall short, and for good reason in my opinion.  He strung together some good, not great years.  Sure, he won a bunch of games (161-94) between 1929 & 1936, but his ERA never dipped below 3.00.  Granted the ERA’s of his era were high, but his adjusted ERA is tied for 167th all-time.  That’s not cutting it in my book for a Pitcher without 200 Wins and without any postseason accolades.  He is the all-time leading HR hitter as a Pitcher with 37, but even that doesn’t sway me.  Sorry Wes.  There are plenty of Pitchers that would need to get in before your card got called.

References
Baseball-reference.com
BR Bullpen


Past Chronicles
Dick Allen
Roberto Alomar
Richie Ashburn*
Earl Averill*
Harold Baines

Dan Bancroft*
Jake Beckley*

Albert Belle
Jim Bottomley*
Pete Browning

Jim Bunning *
Bert Byleven
Joe Carter
Orlando Cepeda*
Rocky Colavito
Earle Combs*
Dave Concepcion
David Cone
Roger Connor*
Larry Corcoran

Mike Cuellar
Bill Dahlen
George Davis*
Andre Dawson
Larry Doby*
Bobby Doerr*
Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager)
Dwight Evans
Rick Ferrell*
Chuck Finley
Steve Finley
Nellie Fox*
John Franco

Gary Gaetti
Steve Garvey
Lefty Gomez*
Luis Gonzalez
Dwight Gooden
Mark Grace
Bobby Grich
Charlie Grimm (Player/Manager)
Ron Guidry
Chick Hafey*

Billy Herman*
Keith Hernandez
Orel Hershiser
Whitey Herzog (Manager)
Gil Hodges
Ralph Houk (Manager)
Shoeless Joe Jackson
Travis Jackson*
Tommy John
Bob Johnson
Addie Joss*
Jim Kaat
George Kell*
Joe Kelley*
George Kelly*
Tom Kelly (Manager)
Chuck Klein*
Jerry Koosman
Bill James & Pete Palmer
Barry Larkin
Tony Lazzeri*
Freddie Lindstrom*
Mickey Lolich
Ernie Lombardi*
Fred Lynn
Sherry Magee

Roger Maris
Rube Marquard*
Billy Martin (Player/Manager)
Dennis Martinez
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Don Mattingly
Gene Mauch (Manager)
Bill Mazeroski*
Fred McGriff

Mark McGwire
Bid McPhee
Johnny Mize*
Paul Molitor*
Jack Morris
Tony Mullane
Dale Murphy
Graig Nettles
Hal Newhouser*
Lefty O’Doul
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver

Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso
Dave Parker
Wes Parker
Lance Parrish
Vada Pinson
Boog Powell
Tim Raines
Willie Randolph
Pee Wee Reese*
Jim Rice
Phil Rizzuto*
Brooks Robinson*
Pete Ro$e
Amos Rusie*
Jimmy Ryan
Ron Santo
Curt Schilling
Red Schoendienst* (Player/Manager)
Ted Simmons
Enos Slaughter*
Lee Smith
Rusty Staub
Dave Stieb
Mel Stottlemyre
Harry Stovey
Sam Thompson
Luís Tiant
Joe Torre
Alan Trammell

George Van Haltren
Arky Vaughan*
Mo Vaughn
Bobby Veach
Frank Viola
Mickey Welch*
Lou Whitaker
Deacon White
Bernie Williams
Vic Willis*
Maury Wills 
Hack Wilson*
Ross Youngs*
Veterans Committee Ballot
 

* Signifies actual Hall of Famer


Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI

The Veterans Committee is going to vote on twenty players for induction into the Hall of Fame.  There are ten players pre-1943 and ten post-1943.  Today I profile Bill Dahlen from that group.

The Numbers
Played 1891-1911 (21 seasons)
2443 Games
9031 At Bats
.272 Batting Average
1589 Runs
2457 Hits
413 Doubles
163 Triples
84 HRs
1233 RBI
1064 Walks
547 SBs

Three .300 Seasons
Six 100+ Run Seasons
Three 30+ Double Seasons
Seven 10+ Triple Seasons
One 100+ RBI Season
Nine 30+ Stolen Base Seasons 

Playoffs:  1 World Series Ring, 5 games, 0 for 15, 1 Run, 3 Walks, 2 SBs

Awards

Top Ten Finishes

On-Base % -Once
Slugging % - 3 Times 
OPS - Twice
Games – Twice
Runs - 4 Times
Total Bases - 3 Times
Doubles – 6 Times
Triples – 4 Times
HRs - 5 Times
RBI - 4 Times (Led league in 1904)
Extra-Base hits - 6 Times
Walks – 5 Times
Stolen Bases – 5 Times
Hit by Pitch - 7 Times

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:
Black Ink: Batting – 4 (405) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting – 96 (231) (Average HOFer ≈ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting – 44.9 (103) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting – 78.5 (223) (Likely HOFer > 100)

He has good overall numbers, but I’m afraid he was an accumulator.  He never had 200 Hits.  He never was even in the top ten Hits or Average.  His first six seasons he was on his way to Hall of Fame worthiness with an average of 122 Runs.  He even hit .300 over that stretch.  He hit .257 the rest of his career.  He’s among the Top 33 in both Triples and Stolen Bases, yet he seldom was even in the Top Ten in those categories.  I’ll give Bad Bill a little credit since he played SS, but he just doesn’t do it for me.  Usually 1500 Runs is a Hall of Fame lock.  Bill Dahlen is the exception.

References
Baseball-reference.com

Past Chronicles
Dick Allen
Roberto Alomar
Richie Ashburn*
Earl Averill*
Harold Baines

Dan Bancroft*
Jake Beckley*

Albert Belle
Jim Bottomley*
Pete Browning

Jim Bunning *
Bert Byleven
Joe Carter
Orlando Cepeda*
Rocky Colavito
Earle Combs*
Dave Concepcion
David Cone
Roger Connor*
Larry Corcoran

Mike Cuellar
George Davis*
Andre Dawson
Larry Doby*
Bobby Doerr*
Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager)
Dwight Evans
Rick Ferrell*
Chuck Finley
Steve Finley
Nellie Fox*
John Franco

Gary Gaetti
Steve Garvey
Lefty Gomez*
Luis Gonzalez
Dwight Gooden
Mark Grace
Bobby Grich
Charlie Grimm (Player/Manager)
Ron Guidry
Chick Hafey*

Billy Herman*
Keith Hernandez
Orel Hershiser
Whitey Herzog (Manager)
Gil Hodges
Ralph Houk (Manager)
Shoeless Joe Jackson
Travis Jackson*
Tommy John
Bob Johnson
Addie Joss*
Jim Kaat
George Kell*
Joe Kelley*
George Kelly*
Tom Kelly (Manager)
Chuck Klein*
Jerry Koosman
Bill James & Pete Palmer
Barry Larkin
Tony Lazzeri*
Freddie Lindstrom*
Mickey Lolich
Ernie Lombardi*
Fred Lynn
Sherry Magee

Roger Maris
Rube Marquard*
Billy Martin (Player/Manager)
Dennis Martinez
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Don Mattingly
Gene Mauch (Manager)
Bill Mazeroski*
Fred McGriff

Mark McGwire
Bid McPhee
Johnny Mize*
Paul Molitor*
Jack Morris
Tony Mullane
Dale Murphy
Graig Nettles
Hal Newhouser*
Lefty O’Doul
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver

Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso
Dave Parker
Wes Parker
Lance Parrish
Vada Pinson
Boog Powell
Tim Raines
Willie Randolph
Pee Wee Reese*
Jim Rice
Phil Rizzuto*
Brooks Robinson*
Pete Ro$e
Amos Rusie*
Jimmy Ryan
Ron Santo
Curt Schilling
Red Schoendienst* (Player/Manager)
Ted Simmons
Enos Slaughter*
Lee Smith
Rusty Staub
Dave Stieb
Mel Stottlemyre
Harry Stovey
Sam Thompson
Luís Tiant
Joe Torre
Alan Trammell

George Van Haltren
Arky Vaughan*
Mo Vaughn
Bobby Veach
Frank Viola
Mickey Welch*
Lou Whitaker
Deacon White
Bernie Williams
Vic Willis*
Maury Wills 
Hack Wilson*
Ross Youngs*
Veterans Committee Ballot
 

* Signifies actual Hall of Famer


Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI

The Veterans Committee is going to vote on twenty players for induction into the Hall of Fame.  There are ten players pre-1943 and ten post-1943.  Today I profile Deacon White from that group.

The Numbers
Played 1871-1890 (20 seasons)
1560 Games
6624 At Bats
.312 Batting Average
1140 Runs
2066 Hits
268 Doubles
96 Triples
23 HRs
977 RBI
307 Walks
57 SBs

Eight .300 Seasons (only two with at least 400 At Bats)

Playoffs:  1 World Series Ring, 15 games, 12 for 58 (.207), 8 Runs, 1 Double, 1 Triple, 3 RBI, 2 Walks

Awards

Top Ten Finishes

Batting Average - 8 Times (1875 & 1877 Batting Titles)
On-Base % - 8 Times
Slugging % - 5 Times (Led league in 1877)
OPS - 6 Times (Led league in 1877)
Games – 4 Times (Led league in 1873)
At Bats – 6 Times
Runs – 5 Times
Hits - 10 Times (Led league in 1877)
Total Bases - 6 Times (Led league in 1877)
Doubles – 6 Times
Triples – 4 Times (Led league in 1877)
HRs – 3 Times
RBI - 11 Times (Led league in 1873, 1876 & 1877)
Extra-Base hits - 4 Times (Led league in 1877)
Walks – Once
Stolen Bases – Once
Hit by Pitch - 3 Times

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:
Black Ink: Batting – 28 (63) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting – 178 (56) (Average HOFer ≈ 144) 
HOF Standards: Batting – 34.9 (195) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting – 47.0 (388) (Likely HOFer > 100)

His numbers don’t do it for me.  His Black and Gray Ink Yardmarkers put him in though, which intrigues me.  He was clearly one of the best hitters of his era, as evidenced by his top ten rankings in Average, Hits, and RBI.  The fact that we was both an outstanding Catcher early in his career and and above-average 3rd Baseman later in his career helps his merits. When I made my initial call on the 20 players I passed on him based on his stats.  If you look deeper though you find that he truly was one of the best players of his era.  He may not stack up against other generations, but in his time he was Hall of Fame material, which is why I am reserving my right to change my mind.  Deacon White belongs in the Hall of Fame.

References
Baseball-reference.com
BR Bullpen


Past Chronicles
Dick Allen
Roberto Alomar
Richie Ashburn*
Earl Averill*
Harold Baines

Dan Bancroft*
Jake Beckley*

Albert Belle
Jim Bottomley*
Pete Browning

Jim Bunning *
Bert Byleven
Joe Carter
Orlando Cepeda*
Rocky Colavito
Earle Combs*
Dave Concepcion
David Cone
Roger Connor*
Larry Corcoran

Mike Cuellar
George Davis*
Andre Dawson
Larry Doby*
Bobby Doerr*
Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager)
Dwight Evans
Rick Ferrell*
Chuck Finley
Steve Finley
Nellie Fox*
John Franco

Gary Gaetti
Steve Garvey
Lefty Gomez*
Luis Gonzalez
Dwight Gooden
Mark Grace
Bobby Grich
Charlie Grimm (Player/Manager)
Ron Guidry
Chick Hafey*

Billy Herman*
Keith Hernandez
Orel Hershiser
Whitey Herzog (Manager)
Gil Hodges
Ralph Houk (Manager)
Shoeless Joe Jackson
Travis Jackson*
Tommy John
Bob Johnson
Addie Joss*
Jim Kaat
George Kell*
Joe Kelley*
George Kelly*
Tom Kelly (Manager)
Chuck Klein*
Jerry Koosman
Bill James & Pete Palmer
Barry Larkin
Tony Lazzeri*
Freddie Lindstrom*
Mickey Lolich
Ernie Lombardi*
Fred Lynn
Sherry Magee

Roger Maris
Rube Marquard*
Billy Martin (Player/Manager)
Dennis Martinez
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Don Mattingly
Gene Mauch (Manager)
Bill Mazeroski*
Fred McGriff

Mark McGwire
Bid McPhee
Johnny Mize*
Paul Molitor*
Jack Morris
Tony Mullane
Dale Murphy
Graig Nettles
Hal Newhouser*
Lefty O’Doul
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver

Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso
Dave Parker
Wes Parker
Lance Parrish
Vada Pinson
Boog Powell
Tim Raines
Willie Randolph
Pee Wee Reese*
Jim Rice
Phil Rizzuto*
Brooks Robinson*
Pete Ro$e
Amos Rusie*
Jimmy Ryan
Ron Santo
Curt Schilling
Red Schoendienst* (Player/Manager)
Ted Simmons
Enos Slaughter*
Lee Smith
Rusty Staub
Dave Stieb
Mel Stottlemyre
Harry Stovey
Sam Thompson
Luís Tiant
Joe Torre
Alan Trammell

George Van Haltren
Arky Vaughan*
Mo Vaughn
Bobby Veach
Frank Viola
Mickey Welch*
Lou Whitaker
Bernie Williams
Vic Willis*
Maury Wills 
Hack Wilson*
Ross Youngs*
Veterans Committee Ballot
 

* Signifies actual Hall of Famer


Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI

The Veterans Committee is going to vote on twenty players for induction into the Hall of Fame.  There are ten players pre-1943 and ten post-1943.  Today I profile Joe Torre from that group.

The Numbers
Played 1960-1977 (18 seasons)
2209 Games
7874 At Bats
.297 Batting Average
996 Runs
2342 Hits
344 Doubles
59 Triples
252 HRs
1185 RBI
779 Walks
23 SBs

Two  200+ Hit Seasons
Two 30+ Double Seasons
One 30+ HR Seasons
Five 100+ RBI Seasons

Awards
1971 MVP
1971 Hutch Award
1971 Major League Player of the Year
1 Gold Glove
9 All-Star Game appearances
MVP Votes in 7 Seasons

Top Ten Finishes
Batting Average - 4 Times (1971 Batting Title)
On-Base % - 4 Times
Slugging % - 3 Times 
OPS - 4 Times
Games – Three Times (Led league in 1970)
At Bats – Twice
Runs – Once
Hits - 4 Times (Led league in 1971)
Total Bases - 4 Times (Led league in 1971)
Doubles – Twice
Triples – Twice
HRs – Once
RBI – 4 Times (Led league in 1971)
Extra-Base hits - 3 Times
Intentional Walks – 4 Times
Hit by Pitch – 7 Times

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:
Black Ink: Batting – 12 (192) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting – 71 (336) (Average HOFer ≈ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting – 39.9 (148) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting – 96.0 (159) (Likely HOFer > 100)


Managerial Record
2151 Wins – 1848 Losses
.538 Winning %
4 World Series Rings
12 Division Titles
13 Playoff Appearances
1996 & 1998 Manager of the Year

As a player, he’s close.  His 903 games at Catcher make his above-average numbers a little more meaningful.  He won an MVP giving him a signature season.  He made a ton of All-Star games.  Unfortunatey he never made the postseason as a player.  To say he made up for it as a Manager is quite the understatement.  He was the steadying force behind the Yankee’s late nineties Dynasty.  He won four World Series and two Managers of the Year.  He was shown the door in New York only to move on to L.A. leading the Dodgers to an NL West title.  He’s clearly a no-brainer Hall of Famer when you factor in his playing days and his Manageral record.

References
Baseball-reference.com

Past Chronicles
Dick Allen
Roberto Alomar
Richie Ashburn*
Earl Averill*
Harold Baines

Dan Bancroft*
Jake Beckley*

Albert Belle
Jim Bottomley*
Pete Browning

Jim Bunning *
Bert Byleven
Joe Carter
Orlando Cepeda*
Rocky Colavito
Earle Combs*
Dave Concepcion
David Cone
Roger Connor*
Larry Corcoran

Mike Cuellar
George Davis*
Andre Dawson
Larry Doby*
Bobby Doerr*
Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager)
Dwight Evans
Rick Ferrell*
Chuck Finley
Steve Finley
Nellie Fox*
John Franco

Gary Gaetti
Steve Garvey
Lefty Gomez*
Luis Gonzalez
Dwight Gooden
Mark Grace
Bobby Grich
Charlie Grimm (Player/Manager)
Ron Guidry
Chick Hafey*

Billy Herman*
Keith Hernandez
Orel Hershiser
Whitey Herzog (Manager)
Gil Hodges
Ralph Houk (Manager)
Shoeless Joe Jackson
Travis Jackson*
Tommy John
Bob Johnson
Addie Joss*
Jim Kaat
George Kell*
Joe Kelley*
George Kelly*
Tom Kelly (Manager)
Chuck Klein*
Jerry Koosman
Bill James & Pete Palmer
Barry Larkin
Tony Lazzeri*
Freddie Lindstrom*
Mickey Lolich
Ernie Lombardi*
Fred Lynn
Sherry Magee

Roger Maris
Rube Marquard*
Billy Martin (Player/Manager)
Dennis Martinez
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Don Mattingly
Gene Mauch (Manager)
Bill Mazeroski*
Fred McGriff

Mark McGwire
Bid McPhee
Johnny Mize*
Paul Molitor*
Jack Morris
Tony Mullane
Dale Murphy
Graig Nettles
Hal Newhouser*
Lefty O’Doul
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver

Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso
Dave Parker
Wes Parker
Lance Parrish
Vada Pinson
Boog Powell
Tim Raines
Willie Randolph
Pee Wee Reese*
Jim Rice
Phil Rizzuto*
Brooks Robinson*
Pete Ro$e
Amos Rusie*
Jimmy Ryan
Ron Santo
Curt Schilling
Red Schoendienst* (Player/Manager)
Ted Simmons
Enos Slaughter*
Lee Smith
Rusty Staub
Dave Stieb
Mel Stottlemyre
Harry Stovey
Sam Thompson
Luís Tiant
Alan Trammell

George Van Haltren
Arky Vaughan*
Mo Vaughn
Bobby Veach
Frank Viola
Mickey Welch*
Lou Whitaker
Bernie Williams
Vic Willis*
Maury Wills 
Hack Wilson*
Ross Youngs*
Veterans Committee Ballot
 

* Signifies actual Hall of Famer

 

Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI

The Veterans Committee is going to vote on twenty players for induction into the Hall of Fame.  There are ten players pre-1943 and ten post-1943.  Today I profile Dick Allen from that group.

The Numbers


Played 1963-1977 (15 seasons)
1749 Games
6332 At Bats
.292 Batting Average
1099 Runs
1848 Hits
320 Doubles
79 Triples
351 HRs
1119 RBI
894 Walks
133 SBs

Two 100+ Run Seasons
One 200+ Hit Seasons
Three 30+ Double Seasons
Four 10+ Triple Seasons
Six 30+ HR Seasons
Three 100+ RBI Seasons

Playoffs:  3 Games, 2 for 9 (.222), 1 Run, 3 Walks

Awards
1964 Rookie of the Year
1972 MVP
7 All-Star Game appearances
MVP Votes in 7 Seasons

Top Ten Finishes
Batting Average – 6 Times
On-Base % – 7 Times (Led league in 1967 & 1972)
Slugging % – 8 Times  Led league in 1966, 1972 & 1974)
OPS – Ten Times (Led league in 1966, 1967, 1972 & 1974)
Games – Twice
At Bats – Twice
Runs – 6 Times (Led league in 1964)
Hits – 3 Times
Total Bases – 6 Times (Led league in 1964)
Doubles – 4 Times
Triples – 6 Times (Led league in 1964)
HRs – 8 Times (Led league in 1972 & 1974)
RBI – 4 Times (Led league in 1972)
Walks – 7 Times (Led league in 1972)
Stolen Bases – Twice
Extra-Base hits – 8 Times (Led league in 1964, 1966 & 1972)
Intentional Walks – 7 Times

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:
Black Ink: Batting – 27 (67) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting – 159 (74) (Average HOFer ≈ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting – 38.7 (161) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting – 99.0 (151) (Likely HOFer > 100)

The Yardstick for Dick Allen are really good.  He’s above for Grey Ink and right at the mark for two others.  Looking at his numbers and I’m not sure why.  He put up solid numbers, but not ones that cry for Hall of Fame induction.  He didn’t have nearly enough RBIs, Hits, Runs, or even HRs.  Sorry Dick, but there are far more worthy players that are still on the outside looking in.

References
Baseball-reference.com

Past Chronicles
Roberto Alomar
Richie Ashburn*
Earl Averill*
Harold Baines

Dan Bancroft*
Jake Beckley*

Albert Belle
Jim Bottomley*
Pete Browning

Jim Bunning *
Bert Byleven
Joe Carter
Orlando Cepeda*
Rocky Colavito
Earle Combs*
Dave Concepcion
David Cone
Roger Connor*
Larry Corcoran

Mike Cuellar
George Davis*
Andre Dawson
Larry Doby*
Bobby Doerr*
Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager)
Dwight Evans
Rick Ferrell*
Chuck Finley
Steve Finley
Nellie Fox*
John Franco

Gary Gaetti
Steve Garvey
Lefty Gomez*
Luis Gonzalez
Dwight Gooden
Mark Grace
Bobby Grich
Charlie Grimm (Player/Manager)
Ron Guidry
Chick Hafey*

Billy Herman*
Keith Hernandez
Orel Hershiser
Whitey Herzog (Manager)
Gil Hodges
Ralph Houk (Manager)
Shoeless Joe Jackson
Travis Jackson*
Tommy John
Bob Johnson
Addie Joss*
Jim Kaat
George Kell*
Joe Kelley*
George Kelly*
Tom Kelly (Manager)
Chuck Klein*
Jerry Koosman
Bill James & Pete Palmer
Barry Larkin
Tony Lazzeri*
Freddie Lindstrom*
Mickey Lolich
Ernie Lombardi*
Fred Lynn
Sherry Magee

Roger Maris
Rube Marquard*
Billy Martin (Player/Manager)
Dennis Martinez
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Don Mattingly
Gene Mauch (Manager)
Bill Mazeroski*
Fred McGriff

Mark McGwire
Bid McPhee
Johnny Mize*
Paul Molitor*
Jack Morris
Tony Mullane
Dale Murphy
Graig Nettles
Hal Newhouser*
Lefty O’Doul
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver

Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso
Dave Parker
Wes Parker
Lance Parrish
Vada Pinson
Boog Powell
Tim Raines
Willie Randolph
Pee Wee Reese*
Jim Rice
Phil Rizzuto*
Brooks Robinson*
Pete Ro$e
Amos Rusie*
Jimmy Ryan
Ron Santo
Curt Schilling
Red Schoendienst* (Player/Manager)
Ted Simmons
Enos Slaughter*
Lee Smith
Rusty Staub
Dave Stieb
Mel Stottlemyre
Harry Stovey
Sam Thompson
Luís Tiant
Alan Trammell

George Van Haltren
Arky Vaughan*
Mo Vaughn
Bobby Veach
Frank Viola
Mickey Welch*
Lou Whitaker
Bernie Williams
Vic Willis*
Maury Wills 
Hack Wilson*
Ross Youngs*
Veterans Committee Ballot
 

* Signifies actual Hall of Famer

Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI

The Veterans Committee is going to vote on twenty players for induction into the Hall of Fame.  There are ten players pre-1943 and ten post-1943.  Today I profile Luis Tiant from that group.

The Numbers
Played 1964-1982 (19 seasons)
573 Games
484 Starts (53rd All-time)
3486-1/3 Innings (72nd All-time)
229 Wins (63rd All-time) -172 Losses
.571 Winning %
3.30 ERA (3.78 League Average)
1.199 WHIP
2416 Ks (35th All-time)
187 Complete Games
49 Shutouts (21st All-time)
15 Saves

Four 20+ Win Seasons
Six sub-3.00 ERA Seasons (two sub-2.00)
Three 200+ Strikeout Seasons

Playoffs:  5 Games, 4 Starts, 34-2/3 Innings, 3-0, 2.86 ERA, 20 Ks, 3 Complete Games

Awards
1972 Comeback Player of the Year
1975 AL Babe Ruth Award
3 All-Star Game appearances
Cy Young Votes in 3 Seasons
MVP Votes in 4 Seasons

Top Ten Finishes
Starts – Twice
Innings – 3 Times
Wins – 5 Times
Winning % – 5 Times
ERA – 4 Times (Led league in 1968 & 1972)
WHIP – 5 Times (Led league in 1973)
Strikeouts – 5 Times
Complete Games – 6 Times
Shutouts – 7 Times (Led league in 1966, 1968, & 1974)

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:
Black Ink: Pitching – 13 (164) (Average HOFer ≈ 40)
Gray Ink: Pitching – 115 (165) (Average HOFer ≈ 185)
HOF Standards: Pitching – 41.0 (66) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Pitching – 97.0 (99) (Likely HOFer > 100)

As a Red Sox fan I would love to say El Tiante is Hall of Fame worthy, but I would be doing Coopestown a disservice.  Don’t get me wrong, Tiant was a great pitcher, he just comes up short in HOF material, as indicated in the Yardsticks above.  He recorded four 20+ seasons, which is good not great.  His adjusted ERA (114) is tied for 210th.  I do like the way he made the transition from fireballer to pitcher when arm troubles sapped his fastball, but that’s not enough to earn him a spot in Cooperstown. 

References
Baseball-reference.com

Past Chronicles
Roberto Alomar
Richie Ashburn*
Earl Averill*
Harold Baines

Dan Bancroft*
Jake Beckley*

Albert Belle
Jim Bottomley*
Pete Browning

Jim Bunning *
Bert Byleven
Joe Carter
Orlando Cepeda*
Rocky Colavito
Earle Combs*
Dave Concepcion
David Cone
Roger Connor*
Larry Corcoran

Mike Cuellar
George Davis*
Andre Dawson
Larry Doby*
Bobby Doerr*
Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager)
Dwight Evans
Rick Ferrell*
Chuck Finley
Steve Finley
Nellie Fox*
John Franco

Gary Gaetti
Steve Garvey
Lefty Gomez*
Luis Gonzalez
Dwight Gooden
Mark Grace
Bobby Grich
Charlie Grimm (Player/Manager)
Ron Guidry
Chick Hafey*

Billy Herman*
Keith Hernandez
Orel Hershiser
Whitey Herzog (Manager)
Gil Hodges
Ralph Houk (Manager)
Shoeless Joe Jackson
Travis Jackson*
Tommy John
Bob Johnson
Addie Joss*
Jim Kaat
George Kell*
Joe Kelley*
George Kelly*
Tom Kelly (Manager)
Chuck Klein*
Jerry Koosman
Bill James & Pete Palmer
Barry Larkin
Tony Lazzeri*
Freddie Lindstrom*
Mickey Lolich
Ernie Lombardi*
Fred Lynn
Sherry Magee

Roger Maris
Rube Marquard*
Billy Martin (Player/Manager)
Dennis Martinez
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Don Mattingly
Gene Mauch (Manager)
Bill Mazeroski*
Fred McGriff

Mark McGwire
Bid McPhee
Johnny Mize*
Paul Molitor*
Jack Morris
Tony Mullane
Dale Murphy
Graig Nettles
Hal Newhouser*
Lefty O’Doul
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver

Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso
Dave Parker
Wes Parker
Lance Parrish
Vada Pinson
Boog Powell
Tim Raines
Willie Randolph
Pee Wee Reese*
Jim Rice
Phil Rizzuto*
Brooks Robinson*
Pete Ro$e
Amos Rusie*
Jimmy Ryan
Ron Santo
Curt Schilling
Red Schoendienst* (Player/Manager)
Ted Simmons
Enos Slaughter*
Lee Smith
Rusty Staub
Dave Stieb
Mel Stottlemyre
Harry Stovey
Sam Thompson
Alan Trammell
George Van Haltren
Arky Vaughan*
Mo Vaughn
Bobby Veach
Frank Viola
Mickey Welch*
Lou Whitaker
Bernie Williams
Vic Willis*
Maury Wills 
Hack Wilson*
Ross Youngs*
Veterans Committee Ballot
 

* Signifies actual Hall of Famer


Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI

The Veterans Committee is going to vote on twenty players for induction into the Hall of Fame.  There are ten players pre-1943 and ten post-1943.  Here is how I would weigh in if I had a vote.

Pre-1943
Bill Dahlen – 1500+ Runs should put him in, but not much else.  Accumulator.  Pass
Wes Ferrell – Under 200 Wins.  Six 20 Win Seasons.  Rotten ERA.  Not joing his brother Rick.  Pass
Joe Gordon – Seriously.  Only if he were Frankie Frisch’s teammate  Pass
Sherry Magee – Profiled him.  Great Hitter for his Era.  Gets my Vote.
Carl Mays – 200 Wins, Great Winning %.  Five 20 Win Seasons.  Gets my Vote.
Allie Reynolds – Under 200 Wins, One 20 Win Season, Not a great Adjusted ERA.  Great Winning % and 6 WS Rings, but not quite enough.  Pass.
Vern Stephens – Made a lot of All-Star games (8).  Nothing jumps out though.  Pass.
Mickey Vernon – Just passed away.  Accumulator.  Good not Great.  Pass.
Bucky Walters – Under 200 Wins.  Three 20 Win seasons, Not a great Adjusted ERA.  Pass.
Deacon White – Great average.  Not much else.  Pass

Post-1943
Joe Torre – As a Player – No.  As a Manager – Yes.  Gets my Vote.
Ron Santo – Profiled him.  Great with the Glove.  Great with the Stick.  Gets my Vote.
Gil Hodges – Profiled him.  Masher and a Winner.  8-time All-Star.  Gets my Vote.
Dick Allen – 351 HRs, 1119 RBI, 7-time All-Star.  Not enough.  Pass.
Jim Kaat - We profiled him.  283 Wins and 16 Gold Gloves.  Gets my Vote. 
Luis Tiant - 229 Wins, Three 20 Win seasons, Not a great Adjusted ERA.  Pass.
Tony Oliva - We profiled him.  3 Batting titles.  Only injuries kept him from BWAA induction.  Gets my vote.
Al Oliver - We profiled him.  Great hitter.  Hall of Fame worthy hitter.  Gets my Vote. 
Vada Pinson  – We profiled him.  An accumulator.  Good, not great.  Pass.
Maury Wills - We profiled him.  Tons of steals.  Not much else statistically.  Pass.  

We’ll find out who the VC let in on December 8th at the Winter Meetings.

Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI

I decided to profile Hall of Famer Earle Combs, who was enshrined by the Veteran’s Committee in 1970.

The Numbers
Played 1924-35 (12 seasons)
1455 Games
5746 At Bats
.325 Batting Average (42nd All-time)
1186 Runs
1866 Hits
309 Doubles
154 Triples
58 HRs
632 RBI
670 Walks
96 SBs

Eight .300 Seasons
Eight 100+ Run Seasons
Three 200 Hit Seasons
Eight 30+ Double Seasons
Nine 10+ Triple Seasons

World Series:  3 Rings, 16 Games, 21 of 60 (.350), 17 Runs, 3 Doubles, 1 HR, 9 RBI, 10 Walks

Awards
MVP Votes in 2 Seasons

Top Ten Finishes
Games – Once
At Bats – 5 Times (Led league in 1927)
Batting Average - 3 Times
On-base % – 5 Times
Slugging % – Once
OPS – Twice
Runs – 8 Times
Hits – 5 Times (Led league in 1927)
Total Bases – 3 Times
Doubles – Once
Triples – 8 Times (Led league in 1927, 1928 & 1930)
Walks – 3 Times
SBs – Once
Extra-base Hits – Twice 

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:

Black Ink: Batting – 7 (307) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting – 78 (300) (Average HOFer ≈ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting – 37.0 (173) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting – 94.5 (164) (Likely HOFer > 100)

He clearly comes up short in the Yardsticks so why is it that Earle Combs is in the Hall of Fame?  Well, he set the table for Ruth and Gehrig hitting .325 and scoring a ton of Runs.  The argument could be made that anyone could score Runs with Ruth and Gehrig hitting behind them, but you have to get on to let them do their work.  I’m a little on the fence with Combs, but with that average with nearly 2000 Hits and his role in the Yankees’ Dynasty, and I’m reluctantly agreeing he deserves his Hall of Fame inclusion.

References
Baseball-reference.com

Past Chronicles
Roberto Alomar
Richie Ashburn*
Earl Averill*
Harold Baines

Dan Bancroft*
Jake Beckley*

Albert Belle
Jim Bottomley*
Pete Browning

Jim Bunning *
Bert Byleven
Joe Carter
Orlando Cepeda*
Rocky Colavito
Dave Concepcion
David Cone
Roger Connor*
Larry Corcoran

Mike Cuellar
George Davis*
Andre Dawson
Larry Doby*
Bobby Doerr*
Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager)
Dwight Evans
Rick Ferrell*
Chuck Finley
Steve Finley
Nellie Fox*
John Franco

Gary Gaetti
Steve Garvey
Lefty Gomez*
Luis Gonzalez
Dwight Gooden
Mark Grace
Bobby Grich
Charlie Grimm (Player/Manager)
Ron Guidry
Chick Hafey*

Billy Herman*
Keith Hernandez
Orel Hershiser
Whitey Herzog (Manager)
Gil Hodges
Ralph Houk (Manager)
Shoeless Joe Jackson
Travis Jackson*
Tommy John
Bob Johnson
Addie Joss*
Jim Kaat
George Kell*
Joe Kelley*
George Kelly*
Tom Kelly (Manager)
Chuck Klein*
Jerry Koosman
Bill James & Pete Palmer
Barry Larkin
Tony Lazzeri*
Freddie Lindstrom*
Mickey Lolich
Ernie Lombardi*
Fred Lynn
Sherry Magee

Roger Maris
Rube Marquard*
Billy Martin (Player/Manager)
Dennis Martinez
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Don Mattingly
Gene Mauch (Manager)
Bill Mazeroski*
Fred McGriff

Mark McGwire
Bid McPhee
Johnny Mize*
Paul Molitor*
Jack Morris
Tony Mullane
Dale Murphy
Graig Nettles
Hal Newhouser*
Lefty O’Doul
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver

Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso
Dave Parker
Wes Parker
Lance Parrish
Vada Pinson
Boog Powell
Tim Raines
Willie Randolph
Pee Wee Reese*
Jim Rice
Phil Rizzuto*
Brooks Robinson*
Pete Ro$e
Amos Rusie*
Jimmy Ryan
Ron Santo
Curt Schilling
Red Schoendienst* (Player/Manager)
Ted Simmons
Enos Slaughter*
Lee Smith
Rusty Staub
Dave Stieb
Mel Stottlemyre
Harry Stovey
Sam Thompson
Alan Trammell
George Van Haltren
Arky Vaughan*
Mo Vaughn
Bobby Veach
Frank Viola
Mickey Welch*
Lou Whitaker
Bernie Williams
Vic Willis*
Maury Wills 
Hack Wilson*
Ross Youngs*

 
* Signifies actual Hall of Famer


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