Cooperstown Chronicles – Jim Edmonds

Jun 16, 2009

A discussion I’ve been having with a great baseball mind has led me to profile Jim Edmonds. 

Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI


 
The Numbers
1925 Games
7708 At Bats
.284 Batting Average
.528 Slugging %
.905 OPS
132 OPS+
1881 Hits
1207 Runs
414 Doubles
25 Triples
382 HRs
1176 RBIs
974 Walks
65 SBs

Five .300 Seasons
Four 100+ Run Seasons
Seven 30+ Double Seasons
Five 30+ HR Seasons
Four 100+ RBI Seasons

World Series:  2 World Series, 1 Ring, 64 Games, 230 At Bats, 63 Hits (.274), 33 Runs, 16 Doubles, 13 HRs, 43 RBIs, 30 Walks  

Awards
4-time All-Star
8 Gold Gloves
1 Silver Slugger
MVP Votes in 6 Seasons

Top Ten Finishes
Batting Average – Once
On-Base % – 3 Times
Slugging % - 3 Times
OPS – 3 Times
At Bats – Once
Runs – 3 Times
Hits – Once
Doubles – Once
Home Runs – 4 Times
RBIs – Twice
Walks – 4 Times
Extra-Base Hits – Twice
Intentional Walks – Twice

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:

Gray Ink Batting - 60 (407), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame Monitor Batting - 88 (183), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards Batting - 40 (144), Average HOFer ≈ 50
  
He certainly belongs in the Rawlings Gold Glove Hall of Fame because of his defensive prowess, but I’m on the fence for Cooperstown.  He did have a stretch of greatness from 1995-2005 (throwing out 1999 when he was limited to 55 games), where he averaged 99 Runs, 32 HRs, and 93 RBIs.  He collected all eight of his Gold Gloves during that stretch meaning he was one of the most complete players in the league for a decade.  He also had his share of postseason success in the second half of his career.  It would be easier to induct him if he reached 2000 Hits, but he had 1200 Runs and nearly 1200 RBIs.  He may have won even more Gold Gloves if it weren’t for Ken Griffey, Jr.  He doesn’t pass the name test for induction, but if you look into the numbers, I think he did just enough to get in.

References
Baseball-reference.com

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7 Responses so far | Have Your Say!

  1. Larry
    June 16th, 2009 at 7:14 pm #

    My first reaction was I don’t think so, BUT when you take in his glove you have to consider him, we put in guys like Bill Mazarowski, Pee wee Reese and Phil Rizzuto and the supporters say their great gloves were among the reasons they belong in, so I say yeah, But lets also bring in Trammel and Whitaker from Detroit,

    (And lets not forget Bucky F Dent and Aaron F Boone too, oops I am getting carried away)

  2. Anonymous
    June 22nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm #

    As you’re already aware of, I do believe Mr. Edmonds did just enough to grant access to Cooperstown. Not overwhelming, but barely..plus he lost many RBI playing for sub-par Angel teams. He played superbly in S. Louis, arguably the best CF from 2001-2005..

  3. Anonymous
    June 22nd, 2009 at 4:11 pm #

    And also, the reason he does so poorly in Bill James’ tests is because Bill James has often stated he probably undervalues defense a little. His HOF Tests clearly do not value defense at all. In a few years we’ll have a better picture with better defensive metrics like the new UZR and other new metrics..

  4. Anonymous
    June 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pm #

    Hey LesterLegends, where is OBP% in your list of stats? I think you should include it since it > Batting Average..

  5. erik
    August 11th, 2009 at 8:30 pm #

    he wont get in until 2056

  6. Chris
    March 2nd, 2010 at 11:39 am #

    Hall of Very Good, absolutely. However, when I watched him, I never got the feeling that I was watching one of the all-time greats.

  7. Anthony
    December 23rd, 2010 at 6:44 pm #

    I just wanted to revisit this now that I’m more acquainted with sabermetric stats. By HoM standards (Hall of Merit, which some Hall of Fame voters consider before voting since their results are announced the first week of December) Edmonds is a lock. A high peak, a prolific offensive player at a valuable position with excellent defensive value (68 WAR roughly).

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