Cooperstown Chronicles – Albert Belle

Mar 25, 2008

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Albert Belle was suggested by, Favre_is_overrated_2007 , friend of mine from Sporting News.  Here are my findings.

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The Numbers
1539 Games
5853 At Bats
.295 Batting Average
.564 Slugging% (17th All-time) 
974 Runs
1726 Hits 
389 Doubles 
21 Triples
381 Home Runs (55th All-time)
1239 RBI
3300 Total Bases 
88 Stolen Bases

Playoffs:  18 games, 14 Hits in 61 At Bats (.230), 10 runs, 2 doubles, 6 HR, 14 RBI

1995 Major League Player of the Year
5 All-Star Appearances
MVP Votes in 6 Seasons
5 Silver Sluggers

Top Ten Finishes
Batting Average – Three times
On-base % – Twice
Slugging % – Six times (Led league in 1995 & 1998)
OPS – Five times (Led league in 1998)
Games - Six times  (Led league in 1998)
At Bats – Once
Runs – Four times (Led league in 1995)
Hits – Four times
Doubles – Four times (Led league in 1995)
Home Runs - Eight times (Led league in 1995)
RBI – Eight times (Led league in ’93, ’95 & ’96)
Total Bases – Seven times (Led league in ’94, ’95 & ’98)
Walks – Twice
Extra-Base Hits – Seven times (Led league in ’94, ’95 & ’98)
Intentional Walks – Four times

Say what you want about Albert Belle, the man could mash.  In 1995 he had 52 doubles and 50 HRs (first person to do so).  That’s impressive.  He hit 30+ HRs in eight straight years (three of 48+).  He had 100 RBI in nine straight years.  He had four 100 run season (two 12o runs) and three 45+ double seasons.  He hit .300+ four times.  He also had a real bad attitude.  He got busted with a corked bat. My guess is that he was a steroid user.  Until they figure out what to do with the steroid players, I’ll have to pass on Albert for the Hall.  Although I think his numbers are worthy.  He didn’t meet the milestones, but he was dominant for a decade.


Past Chronicles
Bert Byleven
Andre Dawson
Dale Murphy
Mark McGwire
Bobby Matthews
Tommy John
Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso
Jim Rice
Ted Simmons
Lee Smith
Jack Morris
Al Oliver
Steve Garvey
Jim Kaat
Pete Ro$e
Shoeless Joe Jackson
Dave Concepcion
Lou Whitaker
Alan Trammell
Ron Santo
Ron Guidry
Gil Hodges
Dave Parker
Tony Mullane
Keith Hernandez
Don Mattingly
Dwight Evans
Ralph Houk (Manager)
Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager)
Charlie Grimm (Player/Manager)
Billy Martin (Player/Manager)
Harold Baines
Gene Mauch (Manager)
Whitey Herzog (Manager)
Tom Kelly (Manager)
Joe Carter
Rusty Staub
Gary Gaetti
Jimmy Ryan
George Van Haltren
Roger Maris
Lance Parrish
Mo Vaughn
Mark Grace
Dennis Martinez
Chuck Finley
Fred McGriff
Wes Parker
Steve Finley
Orlando Cepeda

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28 Responses so far | Have Your Say!

  1. Mo Morrissey
    March 25th, 2008 at 7:07 pm #

    labeling AB with the “S” word? Wow! given the way he kind of just fell off the face of the planet, yeah, I think I agree with you…

  2. Larry Novak
    March 25th, 2008 at 7:17 pm #

    I think this is going to be the fate of many of the big number guys of this era. That is why I said in a previous HOF question that many of those passed over before will get in. Many of those you have reviewed and we agree should get in.

  3. Ryan Lester
    March 25th, 2008 at 7:32 pm #

    Mo – Yeah, my guess that if he would cork, he would inject, especially if everyone else was doing it.
    Larry – Yep.

  4. Larry Novak
    March 31st, 2008 at 9:14 am #

    Not that it sway my vote, but Belle is the only guy to have 50 Double 50 Home run year ever. In 1995 acording to the May edition of Baseball Digest

  5. Ryan Lester
    March 31st, 2008 at 9:16 am #

    larry – thanks for adding. i knew he was the first, didn’t look to see if it’s been replicated.

  6. BraystreetLad
    September 17th, 2008 at 8:53 am #

    Well,let’s see…The HOF has at least SIX known Ku Klux Klansmen,plus
    Adrian “Cap” Anson,who was instrumental in the erection of baseball’s
    colour line,and you’re worrying about an obvious Hall Of Famer’s refusal
    to quietly accept the sport’s racism?(see:Dick Allen’s lack of a plaque)
    WHAT A LOAD OF B.S.!!!!!

  7. LestersLegends
    September 17th, 2008 at 8:57 am #

    I just think Albert juiced and until they figure out what to do with the juicers, he has to wait.

  8. RideThisBlackCowboy
    March 7th, 2009 at 10:28 am #

    BULLS****!!!!Belle NEVER juiced.(though,of course,he used a corked bat,
    not that he needed one;his biceps were corked!!!!)

  9. LestersLegends
    March 7th, 2009 at 10:46 am #

    You can’t say he didn’t with any certaintly. He was one of the baddest mashers in the steroid era. He went as far as to use a corked bat, but no way would he use steroids like the rest of the guys. Right.

  10. RideThisBlackCowboy
    March 7th, 2009 at 10:54 am #

    PROVE IT,BUDDY!!!!(Of course,I can’t prove he didn’t!!!!!)

  11. LestersLegends
    March 7th, 2009 at 11:24 am #

    That’s the shame of the steroid era. You can’t say for certain he used or didn’t. I just happen to feel he fell on the wrong side. They need to figure out what to do with Bonds, Clemens, and Sosa before they think about a guy like Belle. That said looking at his #s he didn’t have enough hits, hrs, rbi, runs, AS appearances, etc. to merit induction either way.

    Like McGwire. He had the HRs and RBI, but those numbers were bloated by his steroid run.

  12. TexasPsycho26
    June 19th, 2009 at 2:02 am #

    Canseco once said for a fact out of all the players, he was sure Albert Bell was one who wasn’t juicing. Since he has been right about steroids 100 percent of the time perhaps you shouldn’t give Belle that label. He said A-Fraud was juicing while no one else believed it. His numbers kill Rice’s numbers, and he should have been a 2-time MVP.

  13. LestersLegends
    June 19th, 2009 at 5:14 am #

    He had the numbers. It ust a matter of how they are going to treat the sluggers of this era.

  14. Anonymous
    June 24th, 2009 at 9:54 am #

    His numbers are borderline worthy. He did not play long enough, but he had a HOF peak. The HOF peak should be enough to carry him in, seeing he was a far better hitter than Sosa. He looks to me kind of like a Frank Howard. Howard had the numbers (143 Career OPS+ albeit majority of that was his 132 SLG+) but played close to what Belle played. I personally believe both deserves more support, especially Howard (1.7 % first try, knocked off ballot) and both would be in my HOF..

  15. LestersLegends
    June 24th, 2009 at 10:05 am #

    He had one of the best peaks ever so I see your point. A slugger in that era with that attitude is going to have a hard time though.

  16. Anonymous
    June 24th, 2009 at 12:17 pm #

    I wouldn’t say one of the best peaks ever…
    Bonds, Pujols, Manny and Rodriguez are all better from this era. Toss in Aaron, Mays, Williams, Foxx, Gehrig and Ruth and he’s at the very least behind all of them. I’d say Mike Schmidt also definitely had a better peak. Belle’s peak > Rice’s peak though…And Belle overall is probably close to Rice..

  17. LestersLegends
    June 24th, 2009 at 12:19 pm #

    Maybe not best ever, but pretty darn good.

  18. Anonymous
    June 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pm #

    Yes, quite good. Also, Edgar Martinez and Ken Griffey Jr had better peaks, and maybe Will Clark, arguably the most underrated player ever, even had a better one. It was most surely a HOF peak. He just didn’t have enough supporting years (ie 6637 Plate Appearances, a lot total to be elected with unless you are a Pujols or SHoeless Joe). His 143 OPS+ is great but he never declined so it is less impressive…

  19. Anonymous
    June 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pm #

    Don’t believe me on Martinez?
    Top 5 BtRun seasons for
    Belle: 66.1, 62.1, 58.5, 55.8, 42.1
    Gar: 74.2, 61.1, 60.5, 53.8, 52.6 but also had years of 48.3, 46.7, and 45.9.
    Griffey: 60.8, 57.8, 44.4, 44.1, 44.0
    In summation,
    Belle’s 1+2+3+4+5= 284.6
    Gar’s 1+2+3+4+5= 302.2
    Griffey Jr.’s 1+2+3+4+5= 251.1
    Griffey, however was injured and therefore had less time in some of those years..
    As far as career value
    Belle= 372.5 BtRuns (80th All Time)
    Gar= 565.9 BtRuns (27th All Time)
    Kid= 517.6 BtRuns (40th All Time)

  20. LestersLegends
    June 24th, 2009 at 12:35 pm #

    I think Edgar is HOF worthy.

  21. Anonymous
    June 24th, 2009 at 2:41 pm #

    So do I and it isn’t close. He had an absolute HOF peak. Heck, the amount of BtRuns he had in his FIVE YEAR PEAK is MORE than FIFTY MORE than Andre Dawson had in HIS CAREER. Edgar is a top fifty all time hitter and should be welcome in Cooperstown possibly in 2010. I think he will get in actually. He has counting stats which deserve consideration and his rates are unbelievable. He’s in the .300/.400/.500 club which is impressive. A-Rod isn’t even in that club..

  22. Larry
    July 26th, 2009 at 6:28 pm #

    This was posted today on Hot stove New York (Blog)

    Hall of Fame snuberry (is that a word?)

    By Daniel Sandker on July 26th, 2009 8:13 PM

    previous post: Knicks talking to Wafer?

    This entry was posted on Sunday, July 26th, 2009 at 8:13 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently not allowed.

    Recently, I watched some punk from Boston named Rice get inducted into the baseball Hall of Fame. It took him every single one of his 15 eligible years to finally get voted in. This makes me upset. Here’s why…………

    Let’s compare these two statistics. The first set is Jim Rice. The second set is a player who retired in 2000 who has not even come up in the discussion. He too was one of the most feared hitters in his decade. And like Rice, he had a tumultuous relationship with the media. Let’s compare.

    Rice: 16 Seasons 2089 Games 1249 Runs 382 HR 1451 RBI .298 AVG 670BB .502 SLG .854 OPS

    Player B: 12 Seasons 1539 Games 974 Runs 381 HR 1239 RBI .295 AVG 683 BB .564 SLG .933 OPS

    Jim Rice was an 8 time all star and has an MVP award. Albert Belle only went to 5 all-star games, but he was as good a hitter as any during the 90’s. His career OPS is almost 80 points higher than Rice’s, and he drew 13 more walks in 550 fewer games. If he wasn’t such a media heel, we’d be talking about this guy right now like they talk about Rice.

    Albert Belle for Hall of Fame!!!!!!

  23. LestersLegends
    July 26th, 2009 at 9:49 pm #

    Right or wrong he is a slugger in the steroid era and they will have to figure out how they are handling that before he gets in. I agree he was one of the best hitters of his era

  24. Larry
    July 27th, 2009 at 4:13 am #

    2 things against him
    1-He is a suspected juicer
    2–he was a total A-Hole to other teammates and the fans, (Much worst than Bonds)

  25. erik
    August 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm #

    belle was a piece of garbage. he played on the indians teams full of juicers – him, manny, sandy alomar, thome was probably on it too, and omar visquel. they all had career years on year with all of them hitting for power. they all juiced.

  26. BlackCowboy
    August 8th, 2009 at 8:43 am #

    Erik,you and the other Belle haters are upset that he wouldn’t say,
    “Yassuh,white bossman,”grin and scrape like Stepin Fetchit in the 10′s to the 40′s and accept your bigoted bull***t.Al was,like me outspoken black man with a 150+ IQ.

  27. Chancellor
    December 26th, 2009 at 10:14 pm #

    Rogers Hornsby admitted to cheating…he’s in the HOF. Gaylord Perry admitted to throwing a spitball all of his career (before he was voted into the HOF)and was busted for using the susbstance toward the end of his career…still got voted in. He even wrote a book about it a few years ago.

    Jim Kaat admitted to using pine tar on the baseball, and yet YOU said he is HOF worthy (I agree as well), as well as many other players cheated in Baseball throught history. You know what they would call that? Having an EDGE.

    Yet you have a problem with a player who just happend to have a bad attitude (can’t be worse than Ty Cobb), who got busted with a corked bat (which has been proven by experts that it doesn’t make a ball travel was also proven on “Mythbusters”),yet Tim Raines was busted with COCAINE! and yet u made a case for him to be enshrined, AND because you THINK Albert Belle took steroids? C’MON MAN!! I think Roberto Alomar AND Ivan Rodriguez took steroids, but until it can be proven they both deserve to be in the Hall.

    There’s one thing I know and that’s NUMBERS DON’T LIE! You should reconsider your position with Albert Belle because he does deserve to he in the Hall.

  28. LestersLegends
    December 26th, 2009 at 10:21 pm #

    I’m coming around on him and all of the other steroid guys. They were all using it.

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