Cooperstown Chronicles – Bill Dahlen

Oct 18, 2008


Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI

The Veterans Committee is going to vote on twenty players for induction into the Hall of Fame.  There are ten players pre-1943 and ten post-1943.  Today I profile Bill Dahlen from that group.

The Numbers
Played 1891-1911 (21 seasons)
2443 Games
9031 At Bats
.272 Batting Average
1589 Runs
2457 Hits
413 Doubles
163 Triples
84 HRs
1233 RBI
1064 Walks
547 SBs

Three .300 Seasons
Six 100+ Run Seasons
Three 30+ Double Seasons
Seven 10+ Triple Seasons
One 100+ RBI Season
Nine 30+ Stolen Base Seasons 

Playoffs:  1 World Series Ring, 5 games, 0 for 15, 1 Run, 3 Walks, 2 SBs

Awards

Top Ten Finishes

On-Base % -Once
Slugging % - 3 Times 
OPS - Twice
Games – Twice
Runs - 4 Times
Total Bases - 3 Times
Doubles – 6 Times
Triples – 4 Times
HRs - 5 Times
RBI - 4 Times (Led league in 1904)
Extra-Base hits - 6 Times
Walks – 5 Times
Stolen Bases – 5 Times
Hit by Pitch - 7 Times

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:
Black Ink: Batting – 4 (405) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting – 96 (231) (Average HOFer ≈ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting – 44.9 (103) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting – 78.5 (223) (Likely HOFer > 100)

He has good overall numbers, but I’m afraid he was an accumulator.  He never had 200 Hits.  He never was even in the top ten Hits or Average.  His first six seasons he was on his way to Hall of Fame worthiness with an average of 122 Runs.  He even hit .300 over that stretch.  He hit .257 the rest of his career.  He’s among the Top 33 in both Triples and Stolen Bases, yet he seldom was even in the Top Ten in those categories.  I’ll give Bad Bill a little credit since he played SS, but he just doesn’t do it for me.  Usually 1500 Runs is a Hall of Fame lock.  Bill Dahlen is the exception.

References
Baseball-reference.com

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* Signifies actual Hall of Famer

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4 Responses so far | Have Your Say!

  1. Cooperstown Chronicles - Jesse Haines | Fantasy Sports Blog
    May 7th, 2009 at 8:54 am #

    [...] Rocky Colavito Earle Combs* Dave Concepcion David Cone Roger Connor* Larry Corcoran Mike Cuellar Bill Dahlen George Davis* Andre Dawson Larry Doby* Bobby Doerr* Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager) Dwight Evans [...]

  2. Cooperstown Chronicles - Stan Coveleski :: Elites TV
    May 13th, 2009 at 12:49 pm #

    [...] Rocky Colavito Earle Combs* Dave Concepcion David Cone Roger Connor* Larry Corcoran Mike Cuellar Bill Dahlen George Davis* Andre Dawson Larry Doby* Bobby Doerr* Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager) Dwight Evans [...]

  3. Anthony
    December 28th, 2010 at 3:48 pm #

    This is a such a ridiculous article. Bill Dahlen is clearly among the top-100 players in baseball history. He has 76 freaking WAR. He was one of the greatest defenders in baseball history, as TZ credits him with 139 runs. With 188 offensive runs and about 30 baserunning runs and a fine peak, he is clearly Hall-worthy. He’s in that upper eschelon of shortstops with Appling, Trammell, Larkin, Cronin, Jeter, Rodriguez, Wagner, Ripken, Vaughan, Lloyd, Yount, and Banks. Hanley may join this group soon as well.

  4. LestersLegends
    December 28th, 2010 at 5:40 pm #

    If he were top 100, he’d be in the HOF already. He got 1.3 percent of the veteran’s vote and 0.4 percent of the BBWAA vote. He was also passed over in 2008 when they looked at pre-1943 players.

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