Cooperstown Chronicles – Dick Allen

Oct 5, 2008

Photo courtesy of TSN Archives/Icon SMI

The Veterans Committee is going to vote on twenty players for induction into the Hall of Fame.  There are ten players pre-1943 and ten post-1943.  Today I profile Dick Allen from that group.

The Numbers

Played 1963-1977 (15 seasons)
1749 Games
6332 At Bats
.292 Batting Average
1099 Runs
1848 Hits
320 Doubles
79 Triples
351 HRs
1119 RBI
894 Walks
133 SBs

Two 100+ Run Seasons
One 200+ Hit Seasons
Three 30+ Double Seasons
Four 10+ Triple Seasons
Six 30+ HR Seasons
Three 100+ RBI Seasons

Playoffs:  3 Games, 2 for 9 (.222), 1 Run, 3 Walks

1964 Rookie of the Year
1972 MVP
7 All-Star Game appearances
MVP Votes in 7 Seasons

Top Ten Finishes
Batting Average – 6 Times
On-Base % – 7 Times (Led league in 1967 & 1972)
Slugging % – 8 Times  Led league in 1966, 1972 & 1974)
OPS – Ten Times (Led league in 1966, 1967, 1972 & 1974)
Games – Twice
At Bats – Twice
Runs – 6 Times (Led league in 1964)
Hits – 3 Times
Total Bases – 6 Times (Led league in 1964)
Doubles – 4 Times
Triples – 6 Times (Led league in 1964)
HRs – 8 Times (Led league in 1972 & 1974)
RBI – 4 Times (Led league in 1972)
Walks – 7 Times (Led league in 1972)
Stolen Bases – Twice
Extra-Base hits – 8 Times (Led league in 1964, 1966 & 1972)
Intentional Walks – 7 Times

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:
Black Ink: Batting – 27 (67) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting – 159 (74) (Average HOFer ≈ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting – 38.7 (161) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting – 99.0 (151) (Likely HOFer > 100)

The Yardstick for Dick Allen are really good.  He’s above for Grey Ink and right at the mark for two others.  Looking at his numbers and I’m not sure why.  He put up solid numbers, but not ones that cry for Hall of Fame induction.  He didn’t have nearly enough RBIs, Hits, Runs, or even HRs.  Sorry Dick, but there are far more worthy players that are still on the outside looking in.


Past Chronicles
Roberto Alomar
Richie Ashburn*
Earl Averill*
Harold Baines

Dan Bancroft*
Jake Beckley*

Albert Belle
Jim Bottomley*
Pete Browning

Jim Bunning *
Bert Byleven
Joe Carter
Orlando Cepeda*
Rocky Colavito
Earle Combs*
Dave Concepcion
David Cone
Roger Connor*
Larry Corcoran

Mike Cuellar
George Davis*
Andre Dawson
Larry Doby*
Bobby Doerr*
Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager)
Dwight Evans
Rick Ferrell*
Chuck Finley
Steve Finley
Nellie Fox*
John Franco

Gary Gaetti
Steve Garvey
Lefty Gomez*
Luis Gonzalez
Dwight Gooden
Mark Grace
Bobby Grich
Charlie Grimm (Player/Manager)
Ron Guidry
Chick Hafey*

Billy Herman*
Keith Hernandez
Orel Hershiser
Whitey Herzog (Manager)
Gil Hodges
Ralph Houk (Manager)
Shoeless Joe Jackson
Travis Jackson*
Tommy John
Bob Johnson
Addie Joss*
Jim Kaat
George Kell*
Joe Kelley*
George Kelly*
Tom Kelly (Manager)
Chuck Klein*
Jerry Koosman
Bill James & Pete Palmer
Barry Larkin
Tony Lazzeri*
Freddie Lindstrom*
Mickey Lolich
Ernie Lombardi*
Fred Lynn
Sherry Magee

Roger Maris
Rube Marquard*
Billy Martin (Player/Manager)
Dennis Martinez
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Don Mattingly
Gene Mauch (Manager)
Bill Mazeroski*
Fred McGriff

Mark McGwire
Bid McPhee
Johnny Mize*
Paul Molitor*
Jack Morris
Tony Mullane
Dale Murphy
Graig Nettles
Hal Newhouser*
Lefty O’Doul
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver

Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso
Dave Parker
Wes Parker
Lance Parrish
Vada Pinson
Boog Powell
Tim Raines
Willie Randolph
Pee Wee Reese*
Jim Rice
Phil Rizzuto*
Brooks Robinson*
Pete Ro$e
Amos Rusie*
Jimmy Ryan
Ron Santo
Curt Schilling
Red Schoendienst* (Player/Manager)
Ted Simmons
Enos Slaughter*
Lee Smith
Rusty Staub
Dave Stieb
Mel Stottlemyre
Harry Stovey
Sam Thompson
Luís Tiant
Alan Trammell

George Van Haltren
Arky Vaughan*
Mo Vaughn
Bobby Veach
Frank Viola
Mickey Welch*
Lou Whitaker
Bernie Williams
Vic Willis*
Maury Wills 
Hack Wilson*
Ross Youngs*
Veterans Committee Ballot

* Signifies actual Hall of Famer

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18 Responses so far | Have Your Say!

  1. David Funk
    October 5th, 2008 at 3:33 pm #

    Nice work again. I agree that there are more deserving players than him that should be in the Hall of Fame.

  2. LestersLegends
    October 5th, 2008 at 3:35 pm #

    David – totally agree

  3. Mo Morrissey
    October 5th, 2008 at 9:52 pm #

    Nice work Ryan..

  4. Lou
    December 3rd, 2008 at 9:21 pm #

    Allen now must be viewed in comparison to other post 1943 players who are eligible to get in. Yes, there may be better players looking to get in but there are also lesser players already in who werent nearly as good as Dick Allen, one of baseball’s most feared power hitters and as good a hitter as there was in the game from 1964 thru 1974. SHould Ron Santo get in before Dick Allen, no. Should Gil Hodges, no. And so shouldnt any other player now eligible via the Veterans Committee. Time will tell. I say Dick Allen will get in on Tuesday Dec 7 2008. Dick Allen could hit a ball as far as any man who ever lived and was a complete ballplayer on the field, where it counts. We’ll see who is right come Dec. 7…Dick Allen Hall of Fame, you better believe it.

  5. LestersLegends
    December 3rd, 2008 at 9:23 pm #

    Lou – Hopefully they’ll call his name for you.

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  7. RideThisBlackCowboy
    April 6th, 2009 at 9:11 am #

    You’re full of it.First,the 5-11,185-lb.Allen was regarded as one of the VERY BEST sluggers of his pitching-dominant era(1963-77.)Second,Allen,who roomed with my cousin Ferguson Jenkins in
    ’63 while playing with the Philadelphia Phillies farm club,the Arkansas
    Travelers(and was chased down a Little Rock street by some fat,stupid,
    greasy redneck cop who saw Allen running down the block with a Coke and assumed Allen stole it-typical Southern mentality which exists even in ’09-see opposition to Pres. Barack Obama’s Economic Stimulus
    Packages),was hated by the bigoted baseball ESTABLISHMENT and some fans because he tolerated NONE of their racist bull***t.THAT’S why
    Allen isn’t in Cooperstown,not his VERY deserving-contextually-stats.
    (Incidentally,most of Allen’s teammates ADORED him for his out-spoken-
    ness re. baseball’s racism.)

  8. LestersLegends
    April 6th, 2009 at 9:20 am #

    The numbers just aren’t there.

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  10. Anonymous
    June 6th, 2009 at 8:51 pm #

    The numbers are COMPLETELY there. Dick Allen is about as Hall-Of-Fame player as you can get. He is markedly similar to Joe DiMaggio who had no issues gettng in. Allen should be in. NO DOUBT

  11. LestersLegends
    June 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pm #

    He was never as dominant as Joe D. Let’s not forget the time Joe lost to serving our country in WWII.

  12. Binx
    July 24th, 2009 at 11:24 am #


    What seems most unusual here is that while Yankees were/are always expressing their concern abouty racism in the South, Boston was the last team to have a black player… Philadelphia was the only city where the Dodgers had to change hotels in ’47…

    I remember Allen’s crap — given and taken — and racism is just about the only way to describe it….

    ALSO… while I would never doubt the ubiquity or strength of Southern racism, I am always wary of convenient Klan stories…. (My grandmother once told me how the KKK burned down the Catholic church in Birmingham in 1923 … didn’t happen….)

  13. LestersLegends
    July 24th, 2009 at 12:08 pm #

    While it’s not perfect, I am glad that we have come a long way.

  14. Anonymous
    July 24th, 2009 at 2:12 pm #

    America HAS come a VERY LONG WAY(see 44th U.S. President;three or four-
    perhaps more,CEO’s of Fotune

  15. BlackCowboy
    July 24th, 2009 at 2:18 pm #

    Five Hundred companies and other black head honchos,but much work needs to be done before total equality is achieved(see:Prof.Henry Louis Gates
    vs. Cambridge,Mass. police;racist talk show hosts;Bill James,etc.)
    Dick Allen is CERTAINLY a Hall Of Famer,but Ron Santo should be enshrined before Allen.Santo,as a GREAT hitting- and-fielding third
    baseman(Allen was a MUCH BETTER hitter than Santo,but couldn’t carry Ron’s glove out to “the hot corner” as a fielder)is,to me,a better
    all-around player than Allen.

  16. LestersLegends
    July 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pm #

    come a long way and a long way to go, great conversation

  17. Allen Convert
    November 30th, 2009 at 2:23 pm #

    The numbers are absolutely there, especially when most where complied in the pithcing era of the 60′s. It’s amazing in 2009 that someone, on a site like this one, could base an argument on statistics and use those offered here without pointing to more accurate, defining stats that account for league averages and ballparks. Allen’s adjusted OPS is 19th all-time, tied with Mays and ahead of Dimaggio, Aaron, Robinson. It’s not even close with respect to numbers. The story is well discussed re: how Allen has gotten a raw deal by (ironically) Bill James and others for being a clubhouse “cancer” when it couldn’t be further from the truth. Whoever authored this page, please do your homework next time, and get current on quantitative baseball analysis.

  18. LestersLegends
    November 30th, 2009 at 3:01 pm #

    The more I look at I’m starting to see your point Allen. In his era he was one of the most feared hitters. Would I like to see more HR, Runs, & RBIs, yes, but that was a different era.

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