Cooperstown Chronicles – Mel Stottlemyre

Jul 26, 2008


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mroctobr44, a friend of mine from the SportingNews Community, asked me to profile Mel Stottlemyre.  Here are my findings.


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The Numbers
Played 1964-1974 (11 Seasons)
356 Starts
2661-1/3 Innings
164 Wins – 139 Losses
.541 Winning Percentage
2.97 ERA (3.31 League Average)
1.219 WHIP
1257 Strikeouts
152 Complete Games
40 Shutouts (44th All-time)
1 Save

Three 20+ Win Seasons
Five Sub 3.00 ERA Seasons

World Series:  3 Starts, 20 Innigns, 1-1, 3.15 ERA, 12 Ks, 1 Complete Game

Awards
5 All-Star Appearances
MVP Votes in 5 Seasons

Top Ten Finishes
Wins – 4 Times
Winning % – Twice
ERA – 5 Times
WHIP – Once
Starts – 5 Times
Innings – 6 Times (Led league in 1965)
Complete Games – 6 Times (Led league in 1965 & 1969)
Shutouts – 8 Times

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:
Black Ink: Pitching – 7 (323) (Average HOFer ≈ 40)
Gray Ink: Pitching – 87 (261) (Average HOFer ≈ 185)
HOF Standards: Pitching – 27.0 (171) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Pitching – 71.0 (158) (Likely HOFer > 100)

As a player Mel was good, not great.  He had three 20 Win seasons, but he didn’t pitch long enough to get into the class where he could even be considered.  His HOF yardsticks are well under the necessary scores.  He tore his rotator cuff in 1974 and didn’t look back.  He has been a coach for the Seattle Mariners, New York Mets, Houston Astros, and the New York Yankees.  He was the Pitching Coach for the Mets’ 1986 World Series title and five Yankee titles.  So the question is whether or not his career as a Pitching Coach is enough to get him in the Hall of Fame.  I’m afraid not.  Considering that Johnny Sain, who had sixteen pitchers win 20+ games under his watch, is not in the Hall of Fame, I would say Mel has little to no shot.  Before he’s even considered, Sain and his disciple Leo Mazzone would have to be enshrined.

References
Baseball-reference.com
ESPN


Past Chronicles
Roberto Alomar
Richie Ashburn*

Albert Belle
Jim Bottomley*
Pete Browning

Jim Bunning *
Bert Byleven
Joe Carter
Orlando Cepeda*
Rocky Colavito
Dave Concepcion
David Cone
Roger Connor*
Larry Corcoran

Mike Cuellar
George Davis*
Andre Dawson
Larry Doby*
Bobby Doerr*
Jimmie Dykes (Player/Manager)
Dwight Evans
Rick Ferrell*
Chuck Finley
Steve Finley
Nellie Fox*
John Franco

Gary Gaetti
Steve Garvey
Luis Gonzalez
Dwight Gooden
Mark Grace
Bobby Grich
Charlie Grimm (Player/Manager)
Ron Guidry
Billy Herman*
Keith Hernandez
Orel Hershiser
Whitey Herzog (Manager)
Gil Hodges
Ralph Houk (Manager)
Shoeless Joe Jackson
Travis Jackson*
Tommy John
Addie Joss*
Jim Kaat
George Kell*
Tom Kelly (Manager)
Chuck Klein*
Jerry KoosmanEarl Averill*
Harold Baines

Bill James & Pete Palmer
Barry Larkin
Tony Lazzeri*
Freddie Lindstrom*
Mickey Lolich
Ernie Lombardi*
Fred Lynn
Sherry Magee

Roger Maris
Billy Martin (Player/Manager)
Dennis Martinez
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Don Mattingly
Gene Mauch (Manager)
Bill Mazeroski*
Fred McGriff

Mark McGwire
Bid McPhee
Johnny Mize*
Paul Molitor*
Jack Morris
Tony Mullane
Dale Murphy
Graig Nettles
Hal Newhouser*
Lefty O’Doul
Tony Oliva
Al Oliver

Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso
Dave Parker
Wes Parker
Lance Parrish
Boog Powell
Tim Raines
Willie Randolph
Pee Wee Reese*
Jim Rice
Phil Rizzuto*
Brooks Robinson*
Pete Ro$e
Amos Rusie*
Jimmy Ryan
Ron Santo
Curt Schilling
Red Schoendienst* (Player/Manager)
Ted Simmons
Enos Slaughter*
Lee Smith
Rusty Staub
Dave Stieb
Harry Stovey
Sam Thompson
Alan Trammell
George Van Haltren
Arky Vaughan*
Mo Vaughn
Bobby Veach
Frank Viola
Lou Whitaker
Bernie Williams
Vic Willis*
Maury Wills 
Hack Wilson*

 
* Signifies actual Hall of Famer

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3 Responses so far | Have Your Say!

  1. Larry Novak
    July 26th, 2008 at 5:15 pm #

    He was one of my favorite players as a kid, He had the bad luck to pitch on some of the worst teams in Yankee history.
    If he had been up 10 years earlier or 10 years later he might have had well over 200 wins and his winning PCT would have been over .600. But there is no such thing as a “Could Have HOF” Sorry Mel.
    Oh by the way, I think Sain should be in the HOF.

  2. LestersLegends
    July 26th, 2008 at 6:04 pm #

    spoken like a true fan of the game

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    May 20th, 2009 at 2:20 pm #

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