Cooperstown Chronicles – Vada Pinson

Jun 27, 2008

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Famar, a friend of mine from the Sporting News community, asked me to profile Vada Pinson.  Here are my findings.

 

The Numbers
Played 1958-1975 (18 Years)
2469 Games (55th All-time)
9645 At Bats (32nd All-time)
.286 Batting Average 
1366 Runs (91st All-time)
2757 Hits (46th All-time)
4264 Total Bases (54th All-time)
485 Doubles (61st All-time)
127 Triples (86th All-time)
256 HRs
1170 RBI
574 Walks 
305 SBs

Four .300 Seasons
Four 100 Run Seasons
Four 200 Hit Seasons
Seven 30 Double Seasons
Five 10 Triple Seasons
Two 100 RBI Seasons
Nine 20 SB Seasons

Awards

1 Gold Glove
4 All-Star Game Appearances
MVP Votes in 5 Seasons

Top Ten Finishes

Batting Average - 4 Times
On-base % - Once
Slugging % – 3 Times
OPS – Twice
Games - 7 Times (Led league in 1963)
At Bats – 8 Times (Led league in 1959 & 1960)
Runs - 7 Times (Led league in 1959)
Hits – 7 Times (Led league in 1961 & 1963)
Total Bases – 7 Times
Extra-base Hits – 6 Times
Doubles - 8 Times (Led league in 1959 & 1960)
Triples - 9 Times (Led league in 1963 & 1967)
RBI – Twice
Stolen Bases – 10 Times
Hit by Pitch – Twice
Intentional Walks – Once

Hall of Fame Yardsticks:

Black Ink: Batting – 18 (123) (Average HOFer ≈ 27)
Gray Ink: Batting – 135 (123) (Average HOFer ≈ 144)
HOF Standards: Batting – 36.3 (179) (Average HOFer ≈ 50)
HOF Monitor: Batting – 95.0 (162) (Likely HOFer > 100)

Vada is a tricky one.  His overall numbers are solid.  However, when you factor in how many Games and At Bats he had, especially considering he never walked, and they don’t look as impressive.  He did have some solid seasons and a nice seven-year stretch when he averaged 194 Hits, 105 Runs, 35 Doubles, 10 Triples, 21 HRs, 88 RBI, and 23 SBs.  He was good, but never the best.  He comes up just short of the Hall of Fame yardsticks, and that’s exactly how he’s going to end in my assessment.  Close, but no cigar.
 
References
Baseball-reference.com

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Bert Byleven
Joe Carter
Orlando Cepeda*
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Larry Corcoran
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* Signifies actual Hall of Famer

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8 Responses so far | Have Your Say!

  1. Larry Novak
    June 27th, 2008 at 5:15 pm #

    very tough call, Classic Hall Of Very Good. If he had about 5 gold gloves and some more all star appearences I would say Yes, But I do ahve to agree with you, But If I was a Reds fan I would say “Hey He Belongs’

  2. LestersLegends
    June 27th, 2008 at 7:46 pm #

    Great points Larry.

  3. Kimberly Pinson
    December 12th, 2008 at 10:34 pm #

    Yes he belongs. He took his career very seriously. But he is not here to speak for himself.

  4. LestersLegends
    December 13th, 2008 at 1:12 am #

    He had a great career Kimberly, but I think he came up just short of HOF standards.

  5. Cooperstown Chronicles - Stan Coveleski :: Elites TV
    May 13th, 2009 at 1:08 pm #

    [...] Tony Oliva Al Oliver Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso Dave Parker Wes Parker Lance Parrish Vada Pinson Boog Powell Tim Raines Willie Randolph Pee Wee Reese* Allie Reynolds Jim Rice Phil Rizzuto* Brooks [...]

  6. Cooperstown Chronicles - Waite Hoyt | 1800blogger
    May 20th, 2009 at 2:12 pm #

    [...] Tony Oliva Al Oliver Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso Dave Parker Wes Parker Lance Parrish Vada Pinson Boog Powell Tim Raines Willie Randolph Pee Wee Reese* Allie Reynolds Jim Rice Phil Rizzuto* Brooks [...]

  7. Cooperstown Chronicles - Kiki Cuyler | 1800blogger
    May 28th, 2009 at 7:59 am #

    [...] Tony Oliva Al Oliver Buck O’Neill & Minnie Minoso Dave Parker Wes Parker Lance Parrish Vada Pinson Boog Powell Tim Raines Willie Randolph Pee Wee Reese* Allie Reynolds Jim Rice Phil Rizzuto* Brooks [...]

  8. helvetian
    March 12th, 2010 at 10:09 pm #

    Vada’s offensive numbers alone put him close to HOF quality. Factor in his great defensive skills in center and Vada should have been a no brainer for the Hall.

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