Cooperstown Chronicles – Veterans Committee Ballot

Sep 28, 2008

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The Veterans Committee is going to vote on twenty players for induction into the Hall of Fame.  There are ten players pre-1943 and ten post-1943.  Here is how I would weigh in if I had a vote.

Bill Dahlen – 1500+ Runs should put him in, but not much else.  Accumulator.  Pass
Wes Ferrell – Under 200 Wins.  Six 20 Win Seasons.  Rotten ERA.  Not joing his brother Rick.  Pass
Joe Gordon – Seriously.  Only if he were Frankie Frisch’s teammate  Pass
Sherry Magee – Profiled him.  Great Hitter for his Era.  Gets my Vote.
Carl Mays – 200 Wins, Great Winning %.  Five 20 Win Seasons.  Gets my Vote.
Allie Reynolds – Under 200 Wins, One 20 Win Season, Not a great Adjusted ERA.  Great Winning % and 6 WS Rings, but not quite enough.  Pass.
Vern Stephens – Made a lot of All-Star games (8).  Nothing jumps out though.  Pass.
Mickey Vernon – Just passed away.  Accumulator.  Good not Great.  Pass.
Bucky Walters – Under 200 Wins.  Three 20 Win seasons, Not a great Adjusted ERA.  Pass.
Deacon White – Great average.  Not much else.  Pass

Joe Torre – As a Player – No.  As a Manager – Yes.  Gets my Vote.
Ron Santo – Profiled him.  Great with the Glove.  Great with the Stick.  Gets my Vote.
Gil Hodges – Profiled him.  Masher and a Winner.  8-time All-Star.  Gets my Vote.
Dick Allen – 351 HRs, 1119 RBI, 7-time All-Star.  Not enough.  Pass.
Jim Kaat - We profiled him.  283 Wins and 16 Gold Gloves.  Gets my Vote. 
Luis Tiant - 229 Wins, Three 20 Win seasons, Not a great Adjusted ERA.  Pass.
Tony Oliva - We profiled him.  3 Batting titles.  Only injuries kept him from BWAA induction.  Gets my vote.
Al Oliver - We profiled him.  Great hitter.  Hall of Fame worthy hitter.  Gets my Vote. 
Vada Pinson  – We profiled him.  An accumulator.  Good, not great.  Pass.
Maury Wills - We profiled him.  Tons of steals.  Not much else statistically.  Pass.  

We’ll find out who the VC let in on December 8th at the Winter Meetings.

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12 Responses so far | Have Your Say!

  1. Larry Novak
    September 28th, 2008 at 2:45 pm #

    Thanks for reviewing this.
    On Maury Wills, early in his career he looked like he would be a lock, but he really never did anything big except steal bases.
    If there was any doubt about Joe Torre as a manager this year is the clincher for him as a HOF manager.
    On the pre 1943 list goes. The stats show how some peoples legends are bigger than the actual career. If he could have had one more 18 win season that would have given him 200 wins and with a winning % of .630 he probobly would have gotten in. He is most known for throwing 2 No Hitters in one season in 1951.

  2. LestersLegends
    September 28th, 2008 at 7:07 pm #

    Thanks. I’ll prob do a CC of each guy who I haven’t done yet for a deeper look

  3. 3rdStoneFromTheSun
    September 28th, 2008 at 8:26 pm #


    you should drop an e-mail or fax on them.

    they overlook too many guys every year.

    it is a crime Kaat isn’t in yet.

  4. LestersLegends
    September 28th, 2008 at 8:31 pm #

    no kidding

  5. Mo Morrissey
    September 28th, 2008 at 9:31 pm #

    I’m with 3rd Stone…nice work

  6. LestersLegends
    September 28th, 2008 at 9:35 pm #

    thanks Mo.

  7. jdm
    September 28th, 2008 at 10:44 pm #

    Another great job on the HOF picks.

  8. LestersLegends
    September 28th, 2008 at 10:49 pm #

    thanks jdm

  9. jdm
    October 12th, 2008 at 10:05 am #

    Great job!! I hope Ron Santo gets in. This is what the VC was created for – to correct an obvious wrong by the BBWA. Maybe even Hodges too. Is there a separate vote for the HOF for someone as a player and then as a manager? Joe Torre, afterall, is still very active as a manager.

  10. LestersLegends
    October 12th, 2008 at 10:10 am #

    not sure jdm. personally i think the two should be combined. life in baseball

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  12. Anonymous
    July 6th, 2010 at 11:10 am #

    Joe Torre, Santo, Dahlen, Allen, Oliva, and Magee deserve it. Nobody else.

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